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Title: analog signal in ADC Post by steven on Jan 4th, 2006, 3:26pm Thanks for Paul's reply on my questions. Now I have another one: when designing ADCs, the buffers are used differential amplifier structures, e.g., folded cascode. This implies the input signal has differential feature. However, the input signal could be single-ended, which means the response of the amplifier won't be as good as differential signal. Under this case, I wonder what can be done to optimize the folded cascode structure. A summary or reference is well appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
Title: Re: analog signal in ADC Post by vivkr on Jan 4th, 2006, 11:50pm Hi Steven, If you are designing to include functionality for both differential and single-ended operation, you will use a fully differential structure anyway, and either accept the penalty in SNR from using a single-ended input, or overdesign for the differential case. For a high-performance design, you prefer this option. If you do wish to design a single-ended structure only, then I suppose you are referring to the degradation in the AC response caused by the mirror. Typically, this is fixed by careful design. You could use an NMOS input and diode-connect the current sources on the NMOS side. This offers double the slew rate compared to diode-connecting the PMOS devices on top of the folding nodes, and has better CMRR. However, the zero is worse here. However, the extra slewing current allows you to compensate the opamp a little more easily. I hope this is helpful for you. Perhaps others can offer their comments. Regards Vivek |
Title: Re: analog signal in ADC Post by steven on Jan 5th, 2006, 8:28pm Hello Vivkr, Thanks for your explanation. I indeed intended to consider the case of differential structures that would take care of both differential and single-ended signals. But I am not quite sure the topology you mentioned on single-ended signal struture. Do you mean using the current mirror load rather than diode-connected load? Since we can't see schametics here, maybe you can write a very simple spice netlist deck to illustrate a little more on your idea? That will be very helpful for me to comprehend and discussion. Thanks. |
Title: Re: analog signal in ADC Post by vivkr on Jan 6th, 2006, 12:07am Hi Steven, You can find the topology I mention in the textbook by Razavi (Design of analog integrated circuits) in Chapter 9 on opamps (Section 9.8-Slew Rate). Fig. 9.58 uses this structure as an example. This is the topology that I recommend. The diode connection required in a purely single-ended toplogy is done with M7 and M8 here. Alternatively, you could have diode-connected M9 and M10, but this has some of the undesirable effects that I mentioned. However, if you are going to use a fully differential toplogy, then this is unimportant. Regards Vivek |
Title: Re: analog signal in ADC Post by steven on Jan 7th, 2006, 9:23am Hello Vivkr, I understand what you referred to now. Thanks. |
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