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Title: Characterizing a current mirror Post by Marc Murphy on Feb 22nd, 2006, 6:59am Hi all, what things are important when trying to characterize a current mirror? Here are the things that come to mind: input resistance output resistance dc current transfer ratio frequency response (applying AC current signal to input and observing current output) output current vs. output voltage (dc sweep) Are there any others that are important? Thanks, Marc |
Title: Re: Characterizing a current mirror Post by huber on Feb 22nd, 2006, 7:39am Mismatch? |
Title: Re: Characterizing a current mirror Post by Marc Murphy on Feb 22nd, 2006, 7:54am huber wrote on Feb 22nd, 2006, 7:39am:
Oh yeah! I think that is captured in the DC current transfer ratio (Iout/Iin). If you get a 1:1 transfer you have no mismatch. |
Title: Re: Characterizing a current mirror Post by Paul on Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:25pm Hi Marc, I believe output current vs output voltage corresponds to the output conductance/resistance you also mention. I would add that noise may be an issue in some cases. I would also mention that Iout/Iin both includes static offset and mismatch. Paul |
Title: Re: Characterizing a current mirror Post by Marc Murphy on Feb 22nd, 2006, 1:47pm Paul wrote on Feb 22nd, 2006, 12:25pm:
Noise...of course...good catch! :) Is a systematic offset a big deal? I mean, if you know what your current offset is, you should just be able to adjust Iin to get the Iout you want, right...? Right, I would typically plot Iout vs. Vout and then take 1/derivative(Iout) to get Rout. Thanks, Marc |
Title: Re: Characterizing a current mirror Post by vivkr on Feb 23rd, 2006, 1:39am Hi Marc, I would say that systematic mismatch is an issue if you want precise currents, because you may know the systematic mismatch at one corner (process, voltage, temperature), but it is unlikely to be the same across all (P,V,T) corners. Whether the mismatch is critical or not is largely dependent on the application. For instance, it would be fatal in a current-steering DAC, but may be a little less serious in an opamp. However, a significant amount of systematic mismatch is a sign of a poorly designed mirror, and may be an indirect sign that your output impedance etc. are poor. You should ask yourself why there is systematic mismatch. You have the same VGS, same (W/L) or a fixed ratio. The only variation comes from the VDS variation, and if this causes significant deviation in the mirror ratio, then you will run into trouble with some other critical parameter such as gain or PSRR. So pay attention to the mismatch is what I would say. Regards Vivek |
Title: Re: Characterizing a current mirror Post by sonny on Feb 25th, 2006, 6:12am Over drive voltage is important. It decide output inpedance and noise. Longer L brings high over drive voltage and good current ratio matching. |
Title: Re: Characterizing a current mirror Post by jjsnail on Mar 9th, 2006, 2:32am hi vivkr how to analyze the systematic mismatch of a current mirror? can U give a example? |
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