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Title: stable sim: Middlebrook vs. Two-port Parameter Post by greatqs on Dec 22nd, 2006, 5:18pm Hi every one, I've just read Ken's book on spice&spetre about ac simulation on feedback circuit. (section 3.4.1) In his book, he mentioned that the most accurate way to characterize the real feedback circuit is to use two-port parameter(Y,Z,G,H), because this method naturally include all the feedback and feedforward(bi-directional) effect and loading effect into a single two-port presentation even you don't need to open your feedback loop. Once you get parameter decideded, you get all feedback infomation(open loop gain, closed loop gain). I'm a little curious that what's the practical disadvantage of two-port parameter method, which 2 ports in real circuits should be used to extract the parameter? Which two port parameter should be choosen for a specific circuit? Furthermore, Middlebrook method seems to be a little bit more popular than above method, is it right? Now I'm going to analysis the loop stability of a bandgap (circuit is seem as Khong-Meng Tham's paper, JSSC 1995 May VOL.30 NO.5 "A low Supply Voltage High PSRR Voltage Reference in CMOS Process"). I've to choose one method to characterize the feedback build-in the bandgap. Which method should I choose? Anyone please give your opinion. thanks very much! |
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