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Title: The body diode of the power MOSFET Tr Post by dandelion on Jan 28th, 2008, 9:53pm Hi, In my design, the power MOSFET is integrated on the chip. We have the concern the body diode of the power MOSFET will have adverse effect for the performance. I wonder if this effect can be represented in the simulation? Put another words, in normally, the body diode is imcluded in the BSIM spice model? PLs. give me some advice. Thanks |
Title: Re: The body diode of the power MOSFET Tr Post by thechopper on Jan 29th, 2008, 3:38pm Hi Dandelion, I guess you are taking of the drain-body diode (Iīm assuming an open-drain output stage). If thatīs te case the answer is yes, it is included in the BSIM model. Which is exactly the adverse effect you are expecting on the performance of such device? Is it ESD related? If you could give us more details that would help us answer your question. Thanks Tosei |
Title: Re: The body diode of the power MOSFET Tr Post by dandelion on Jan 29th, 2008, 6:23pm thechopper wrote on Jan 29th, 2008, 3:38pm:
Hi Tosei, Thanks for the reply. I am designing a class-d audio amplifier. because the output power is about 2W. The power mosfet is integrated into the chip. we have the concern if the body diode will have any adverse effect on the performance. So, if this body diode is included in the spice model, it would be controllable for the front-end designs. In fact, we have found some descranpancy between the simulation and the silicon measuremnts results. Mainly is at the overcurrent protection part and we are checking if this body diode is the culprit. Thanks |
Title: Re: The body diode of the power MOSFET Tr Post by sheldon on Jan 31st, 2008, 8:08am Dandelion, By the body diode are you referring to the body-drain diode or are you using a triple well process [or BiCMOS process] with a buried N-Well? The body-drain diode should be included in the bsim4 model, but the body well due to the buried n-well probably is not included in the model. I have not looked at the diode models in the bsim4 model. Usually when a parasitic device is included in a compact model, the model is somewhat simplified to optimize simulator performance. Is it possible to use an external model for the body diode? An external diode model may contain more parameters and allow for more accurate simulation. Does your foundry provide data on effects like saturation recovery? Is it possible that device self heating is an issue? Is the body diode the only protection device or are you using an external Schottky as the main protection device? Best Regards, Sheldon |
Title: Re: The body diode of the power MOSFET Tr Post by dandelion on Jan 31st, 2008, 8:54pm sheldon wrote on Jan 31st, 2008, 8:08am:
Hi sheldon, Thanks for the reply. It is helpful to us. As I know, our foundy did not provide the effects like saturation recovery. In addtion, we exclude the possiblity of the self heating to the performance. For the overcurrent protection, we have another block to handle it. I am not clear the function of the body diode or the external Schottky for protecting the overcurrent. The only adverse effect as I know is its EMI effecr for the saturation recovery of body diiode. In present, we have found the VDD/GND bounce maybe the cause of the fault. We are still checking it. Rhanks |
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