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Title: noise_table function Post by ORNITORINCO on Feb 7th, 2008, 4:50pm Hello everyone, I am trying to simulate PLL phase-noise in phase-domain using verilog-AMS description of each block under SpectreRF (I perform AC and NOISE analysis with analog_environment). To include the output phase noise spectrum I am following Kundert's guide "Predicting the Phase Noise of PLL-Based Frequency Synthesizers" and I am using the noise_table function to give the values of phase-noise for discrete points in frequency. My problem is that I would like to have a piecewise-linear interpolation of the points in the log-log plot as it is usual in phase-noise spectrum description (dBc/Hz vs log(freq)). Is there anyone knowing how to do that? Thanks! |
Title: Re: noise_table function Post by Geoffrey_Coram on Feb 12th, 2008, 6:40am Your request has already been brought up for the next version of the V-AMS standard. |
Title: Re: noise_table function Post by Christoph on Feb 29th, 2008, 6:50am Hi! I was trying to do a similar thing in a Verilog-AMS model for spectre. Unfortunately spectre did not seem to support arrays. Did someone managed to create an array of (constant) real values? Kind regards, Christoph |
Title: Re: noise_table function Post by Geoffrey_Coram on Feb 29th, 2008, 12:57pm Are you using a current version of Spectre? I'm pretty sure it does support arrays. I have this in one of my modules ... I(a,b) <+ noise_table({10.0,5.0,100.0,6.0,1000.0,10.0,1.0G,6.0},"tabnoi"); |
Title: Re: noise_table function Post by Marq Kole on Mar 19th, 2008, 2:29pm Currently Spectre still does not support array parameters and it will give an error when trying to initialize such a parameter with an array literal. You will have to create a real array variable and assign it a value in an initial_step event if you want to use it that way. Cheers, Marq |
Title: Re: noise_table function Post by Geoffrey_Coram on Mar 20th, 2008, 6:14am Marq - I recall some problem with using array variables for noise_table; are you sure spectre supports this? |
Title: Re: noise_table function Post by neoflash on Oct 29th, 2009, 10:10am Geoffrey_Coram wrote on Feb 29th, 2008, 12:57pm:
Hi, Geoffery: Is there any way that we put the table data in a file, then call it in the noise_table(function)? I'm using verilogA in hspice. Regards, Neo |
Title: Re: noise_table function Post by Geoffrey_Coram on Nov 2nd, 2009, 5:33am Verilog-AMS LRM 2.3 added support for using a filename input for noise_table. I don't know how many simulators have implemented this as yet. Quote:
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Title: Re: noise_table function Post by neoflash on Nov 2nd, 2009, 6:02am Geoffrey_Coram wrote on Nov 2nd, 2009, 5:33am:
I think that's why I failed to do so in hspice. HSPICE doesn't support AMS extension yet. |
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