The Designer's Guide Community Forum
https://designers-guide.org/forum/YaBB.pl
Design >> Analog Design >> deep n-well potential
https://designers-guide.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1261677267

Message started by Dipankar on Dec 24th, 2009, 9:54am

Title: deep n-well potential
Post by Dipankar on Dec 24th, 2009, 9:54am

Dear All,
             For  Deep n-well nmos I like to connect the nwell to VDD to have the maximum RW-NW reverse bias and so minimum RW-NW junction capacitance. I  avoid to connect the NW to DIGITAL_VDD as it will directly  inject nois. But I'm still paranoid considering the potential noise injection even from VDD_ANALOG pin into the nw. So is it wiser to leave the nw floating ??? Or is there some other smarter  practice ???

Title: Re: deep n-well potential
Post by vivkr on Jan 4th, 2010, 1:59am

Leaving the well floating is definitely a bad idea. If you are really paranoid, then you can add an extra pin, say NWELL_CLEAN and tie it externally to a clean VDD. However, I think you are likely to gain precious little for your effort.

Vivek

Title: Re: deep n-well potential
Post by thechopper on Jan 4th, 2010, 2:05pm

Agree with vivek. Tie it to the analog VDD, may be through an integrated RC network for filtering high frequency VDD components.
Since there is no DC consumption such RC network will not affect NW biasing.

Tosei

Title: Re: deep n-well potential
Post by loose-electron on Jan 6th, 2010, 5:01pm

Get an approximate value of capacitance for the deep nwell to the bulk,
With that, select a resistance to tie the DNW to a quiet positive supply.

Set the RC time constant pole such that the RC filter BW is well below your minimum frequency present on the power rail.

Dont let the well float, but the above is a possible idea if you dont want to hardwire it to the power

Title: Re: deep n-well potential
Post by ci on Jan 18th, 2010, 1:01pm

In addition to the other good advices you have received, I suggest you focus on what devices you want to protect from substrate noise.  

For example if you want to protect the p-mos transistors inside the n-well, then you want to reduce the noise coupling through backgate modulation and capacitive coupling through drain and source reversed biased junctions.  Thus, you want to connect the n-well to the same positive supply that powers these p-mos transistors and through a very low resistive/inductive path and using multiple n-well contacts (no RC filter here).  

You can analyze similar cases in a similar way, by first identifying the coupling mechanisms.  An RC filter for example will block some frequency components of the noise, but before you implement it I suggest you identify what noise you block, where it is coming from, and what is the impact of how do you block it (charge displacement in the capacitor generates transient currents; where do they go)

Cosmin Iorga, Ph.D.
NoiseCoupling.com
http://www.noisecoupling.com

The Designer's Guide Community Forum » Powered by YaBB 2.2.2!
YaBB © 2000-2008. All Rights Reserved.