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Title: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by mixed_signal on Jun 30th, 2012, 2:07am Hi, I am designing a low power current starved ring oscillator as shown in attachment. The bias current for each inverters is in the range of 50n to 100nA. M1 M4 are in strong inversion saturation and act as current sources. i have made w/l very small like 1/40 to put them in strong inversion. How do i size M2 M3? If i size for general inverter like 4/1 and 2/1 then they will be in weak inversion during switching at such low currents. Is that OK? OR should i size them with w/L small so that the are in strong inversion? |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by AnalogDE on Jun 30th, 2012, 11:43am M2 and M3 are just switches. They will be in linear operation region of operation for the most part. Start with min-L and wide enough so the voltage drop across them is small enough to keep the outer devices in saturation. |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by mixed_signal on Jun 30th, 2012, 8:14pm If w/l of M2, M3 is made greater than 1 then at current =40nA they will be in weak inversion. Isnt it a problem? To put them in strong inversion w/l of all transistors have to be <<1 |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by AnalogDE on Jul 1st, 2012, 10:09am The goal in sizing the switches is to minimize Vds. You may also want to minimize the gate cap of the switches (minimize loading). All this necessitates a min L device with the smallest W that works for you. |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by loose-electron on Jul 3rd, 2012, 2:57pm what is this for? THis type of architecture is very noise sensitive (power and ground) and full of jitter problems in a VCO ring oscillator PLL. |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by mixed_signal on Jul 3rd, 2012, 10:16pm Hi loose-electron, This is for an ultra low power temperature sensor. I found this vco frequenc to be highly linear wrt bias current. I like it!!!! I want to do a transient simulation for the vco and at the same time sweep temperature during the transient. How can it be done in cadence? |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by ywguo on Jul 4th, 2012, 7:36am Hi mixed-signal, Please look at http://www.designers-guide.org/Forum/YaBB.pl?num=1275773203/1#1 for changing temperature during a transient analysis. Yawei |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by loose-electron on Jul 7th, 2012, 8:58pm mixed_signal wrote on Jul 3rd, 2012, 10:16pm:
Put some impedance in the power and ground, and put some noise on both. You may not like it so much after that. |
Title: Re: low power current starved ring oscillator Post by mixed_signal on Jul 8th, 2012, 9:02am Hi loose electron, I m interested in the simulations suggested. But how do u put impedance & noise in cadence? Can u explain ? :) |
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