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Title: Calibrating a SAR Post by RobG on Aug 6th, 2014, 2:26pm OK, it is my turn to be lazy ;D I'm looking into an 18 bit SAR. No missing codes is the main consideration. Conceptually I know what I need to do to calibrate out the mismatches, but I'm not sure how to implement it. Does anyone have any good references or insight? |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by loose-electron on Aug 7th, 2014, 7:45pm no missing codes and 18 bits? How fast is this thing? Personally if the device can be really slow, I would consider a VCO counter architecture. Always monotonic, never misses codes and simpler to implement. Need to be careful about characterizing the noise but thats about it. |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by RobG on Aug 7th, 2014, 9:19pm loose-electron wrote on Aug 7th, 2014, 7:45pm:
Oh, just 1.3 MS/s. That isn't fast is it? :) Unfortunately, it has 32 multiplexed inputs so delta-sigma or counters won't work. The good news is that I can probably interleave several ADCs and not worry about channel mismatch. TI actually has 18 bit SARs at that speed for only 5mW, but it is probably in 40nm or something. |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by RobG on Aug 11th, 2014, 10:31am I found this thesis from MIT that seems helpful. It is disappointing that they charge to get a non-secured copy. I hope at least the author gets the lion's share. |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by loose-electron on Aug 11th, 2014, 8:52pm RobG wrote on Aug 11th, 2014, 10:31am:
generally the author gets nothing for that sort of thing its not selling a book, there is no money to be made in journal articles or thesis papers |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by Lex on Aug 13th, 2014, 3:07am Just use another viewer ;) evince, xpdf seem to work fine for screenshots/text copy |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by wandola on Sep 8th, 2014, 6:50pm I believe 18-bit SAR ADC is super challenging. You can sell this thing to ADI, or publish ISSCC paper like crazy... You definitely need to use subranging type and combine 2 10-bit or 10b+9b to realize the 18-bit resolution overall. Each ADC needs to be calibrated. I think the gain and offset mismatch between the two ADCs also need calibration. 65nm or 40 nm from UMC or tsmc will be a good platform for this kind of design. :D |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by loose-electron on Sep 9th, 2014, 11:05pm wandola wrote on Sep 8th, 2014, 6:50pm:
a sub ranging 2 step structure will require the front end to be good to 18 bits or you will lose the accuracy in two step process errors. this is not going to be easy, the common methods at this rate resolution tend to be oversampling or integrating-counter systems. However that multiplexing requirement may make those methods a show stopper |
Title: Re: Calibrating a SAR Post by boe on Sep 10th, 2014, 11:53pm loose-electron wrote on Sep 9th, 2014, 11:05pm:
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