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Title: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by ywguo on Jan 16th, 2005, 1:05am Hello, I am testing a 10bit 40MS/s pipelined ADC for undersampling application. It acqures >8bit for analog input < 30MHz. But ENOB (SINAD) decrease fast for analog input > 30MHz. There are many spurs near the fundamental frequency and harmonics on FFT plot for analog input of 35MHz and 45MHz. The FFT plot is shown below. sorry, it seems that upload picture is not permitted on this forum. Please give me help and welcome any comments. Thanks Yawei |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by JJ on Jan 16th, 2005, 12:34pm I think it is normal, because your ADC speed is only 40MSPS. |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by John Galt on Jan 17th, 2005, 3:31am You need to respect the Nyquist Sampling Rate or else you are bound to get those spurs (and consequently a bad SNR) For a 40 MSPS ADC your signal band should be less than 20MHz to avoid aliasing. |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by ywguo on Jan 17th, 2005, 7:45am Hi, John, Those spurs are not harmonics in FFT plot. That ADC are designed for undersampling application. So I put an SHA precede the pipeline chain. The SHA has much high input bandwidth. Thanks anyway. Yawei |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by ywguo on Jan 19th, 2005, 7:51am Hi, I found that is due to poor purity of the analog input signal. I havn't any sinusoid signal generator used for RF. An AWG + some RF filters are the only equipment and accessories I have on hand. When I choose alternative input frequency and filters, the spurs and harmonics are supressed much lower. Thanks Yawei |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by codec on Jan 23rd, 2005, 3:02am Hi, Yawei Congratulations!Your circuit is full functional. |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by codec on Jan 28th, 2005, 8:40pm Hi, Yawei May I learn the composition of your testing system and types of instruments you are using? I am just going to do my test now. |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by ywguo on Jan 30th, 2005, 11:36pm Hi, Codec, My test system and instruments are listed below. Sampling clock -- Agilent 33250A arbitrary waveform generator (poor sine signal, NOT suitable for analog input, but enough for sampling clock) Analog input -- Tektronix AWG520 arbitrary waveform generator (better than Agilent 33250A). It has 10 bit D/A output, so filtering is required for measuring a 10 bit ADC. Recording -- Tektronix TLA715 logic analyzer Power supply -- HP6624 system DC power supply You'd better use band pass filter for both sampling clock and analog input. I used Mini-Circuits SBP and SLP filter. Please go to www.maxim-ic.com. There are many good application notes about high-speed ADC testing. Basically I test my ADC according the method proposed by Maxim. But I don't have so good apparatus as those proposed in Maxim's application notes. I advise you study the evaluation kit of Maxim, like MAX1448 Eval. Kit. Would you please tell me some details of your design? Then perhaps I could give you more suggestions. Good luck! Yawei |
Title: Re: FFT of a pipelined ADC Post by codec on Jan 31st, 2005, 7:29am Thanks, Yawei. I bought 33250A one year ago for arbitray wave generation. However, not only 33250A is poor for SIN wave, but I don't have digitizer either. Currently, we are testing the chip using mixed-signal LSI tester. The circuit we have designed are IPs for custom use in the system. The performance is 10bit 20~60MHz. I will exchange testing result with you after we have got some progress. |
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