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Title: Metal width consideration for layout Post by rampat on Oct 27th, 2009, 7:16am Hi All, In one of the switched cap circuit,I need to decide metal width for the signal paths depending on the current. i am not sure whether to consider peak current or average current for fixing the metal width. I need to take take care of EM as well as IR considerations. Attached image shows the simulated current profile in on the signal path. Can some one tell me how to decide metal width w.r.t current waveform attached ? Thanks rampat |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by rampat on Oct 27th, 2009, 7:22am Sry I forgot to attach image file Here it is .... |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by loose-electron on Oct 27th, 2009, 9:09am The problem is one of tolerable limits. Max resistance - what will simulations tell you is tolerable in both max L and max R in the interconnect. Min resistance/inductance - for present placements of components, whats the lowest resistance interconnect tht can be placed? If you can get an interconnect in place between those two you should be fine. Also, make a check of you contact resistance and via resistance. These can be significant. Generally, its not too much of a problem, until you are dealing with high current circuits (amperes of current on the chip) Or high frequencies (100MHz, 60GHz, etc.), where the RLC of the network becomes critical. |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by Berti on Oct 28th, 2009, 12:52am Rampat, Concerning electromigration the average current needs to be considered. AC currents sometimes even have a "healing" effect on the metal wire. Cheers |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by rampat on Oct 28th, 2009, 2:12am Hi Berti, Can you please elaborate on "healing" effect due to AC currents on metal wire. thanks rampat |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by loose-electron on Oct 28th, 2009, 9:54am Berti - His currents are max of 633uA I really doubt electromigration is going to be an issue. - Jerry |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by Berti on Oct 29th, 2009, 4:53am Rampat, electromigration is the transport of material caused by the gradual movement of ions. AC currents sometimes even help to bring back some of the displaced material which basically helps to "heal" the metal wire. Unfortunately I don't remember the book I read this (there were also pictures for illustration). Jerry, I fully agree with you. But it was part of the original post: Quote:
Regards |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by loose-electron on Oct 29th, 2009, 4:46pm Ah, ok, that makes sense - but then - EM = electromigration EM = electromagnetic. I sort of ignored that. |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by Berti on Oct 30th, 2009, 8:04am :D That's the problem with abbreviations, they are ambiguous, I am also not sure what Rampat actually means with EM :) |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by loose-electron on Oct 30th, 2009, 8:45am Abrev? thts ng cuz we dnt no wht 2 say bt thm k? ttyl, j ;D if you read the above with0ut thought, you spend too much time doing one of 3 things: texting on a cell phone... internet chat rooms... morse code.... pick one... |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by rampat on Nov 1st, 2009, 8:17pm Hi Berti, For EM i meant Electro migration Sry I did not know that will create confusion rampat |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by Mayank on Nov 5th, 2009, 2:36am Hello folks, Sorry for bringing this up again....But i have a similar query.... @ berti : You explained AC signals have a healing effect on interconnects....But what concerns me is --> Wont a high current spike burn off the interconnect(because of interconnect resistance) if it's not sized to carry that much current ?? What decides this size ?? ----- EM rules of some process DRM ?? In this case, i agree with the replies that the highest current spike of 630uA is not of a big concern.....But what if you design your wire for say, 1mA avg current, but peak current spikes of 2mA occur on it ?? --mayank. |
Title: Re: Metal width consideration for layout Post by loose-electron on Nov 5th, 2009, 9:56am 95% of the time the geometry of the interconnect is dictated by the acceptable IR drop. Lots of current, and little allowable IR loss in the wire, means wide interconnects to keep the R down. Its usually not much more complicated than that. Foundry may or may not have a set of current density rules for metal interconnects also. RF design is a different game (line inductance becomes an issue as frequencies get higher, I generally dont worry about L of the lines inside until I hit 500MHz or so.) Electromigration rules will be unique to the foundry as well. |
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