The Designer's Guide Community Forum https://designers-guide.org/forum/YaBB.pl Measurements >> Phase Noise and Jitter Measurements >> Period Jitter is different from Jitter obtained from Eye Diagram https://designers-guide.org/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1494239388 Message started by Trinath on May 8th, 2017, 3:29am

 Title: Period Jitter is different from Jitter obtained from Eye Diagram Post by Trinath on May 8th, 2017, 3:29am This is very basic question , which is confusing me. The problem here is , I am supposed to calculate Period Jitter for a clock signal  . I am hoping period jitter to be same as the Jitter obtained in Eye diagram .But I see a huge difference among these two measurements.Can someone please tell me why this difference is seen.The way i calculated Period Jitter is  by  Calculating the period of each cycle and subtracting it with my ideal Period.Whereas eye diagram is measured in adexl.

 Title: Re: Period Jitter is different from Jitter obtained from Eye Diagram Post by Alberto-G on May 8th, 2017, 6:48am Hi, period jitter variance (true or Allan) should be defined on the difference of the time instants (crossing edge)j(i)=(t(i+1) -  t(i))I think period jitter is a self referred measure so no ideal period should be used.If you fix an ideal period for instance in an oscillators you get an unbounded rms jitter value.I'm not an expert on this topic, maybe other users can answer better  :)

 Title: Re: Period Jitter is different from Jitter obtained from Eye Diagram Post by Trinath on May 9th, 2017, 12:45am Thank You , but can you also tell me why the Jitter seen in Eye Diagram is much more than Period Jitter

 Title: Re: Period Jitter is different from Jitter obtained from Eye Diagram Post by Alberto-G on May 9th, 2017, 2:38am I think because jitter based on eye diagram takes into account also deterministic jitter components instead period jitter  acts  like a filter each n×f0  component.

 Title: Re: Period Jitter is different from Jitter obtained from Eye Diagram Post by Trinath on May 10th, 2017, 3:48am let me be precise here:I am intentionally giving a supply noise on my DC supply,and for this setup am calculation period Jitter . The period Jitter I got  was 20ps where as in Eye Diagram am seeing around 40ps.Which among  these two values should I consider. I wonder why these two are not same as my circuit is disturbed only by Supply Noise .I am checking this Jitter for a Clock signal not data signal.Thank You. .

 Title: Re: Period Jitter is different from Jitter obtained from Eye Diagram Post by Hercules Poirot on Aug 8th, 2017, 5:49am If you are giving to some synthesized logic, period jitter is the one that really matters as the physical design will be constrained by the smallest period of the clock. If you are using the clock to run a Tx of a serial protocol which has embedded clocking, your accumulated jitter matters.