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Query on folded cascode ota with switched capacitor cmfb
Sep 07th, 2013, 5:24am
 
hi all ,
I have designed a folded cascode ota with both ideal and switched capacitor cmfb. With ideal cmfb open loop gain is 67dB but when used with sc cmfb the gain decreases to 33dB .
What is the reason for this ?
in sc cmfb non-switched capacitor value is 200fF and switched capacitor value is 100fF. clock frequency is 10.24M
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Re: Query on folded cascode ota with switched capacitor cmfb
Reply #1 - Sep 11th, 2013, 3:39am
 
Hi RaDex,

Firstly, I am guessing that you are referring to your CMFB loop gain.

How are you simulating the SC-CMFB loop ?

Transient + stb ?
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Reply #2 - Sep 11th, 2013, 4:24am
 
its the open loop gain of the ota with switched capacitor cmfb.
I have done PSS followed by PAC analysis for simulation of open loop gain.
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Re: Query on folded cascode ota with switched capacitor cmfb
Reply #3 - Sep 11th, 2013, 6:17am
 
Hi RaDex,

Just a few more questions ...
a) ideal CMFB : Is this a Continuous time or a SC version ?
b) have you checked the DC or PSS node voltages ? Are they the same/similar between the 2 sims ?
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Re: Query on folded cascode ota with switched capacitor cmfb
Reply #4 - Sep 12th, 2013, 3:13am
 
ideal cmfb is made up of balun and an amplifier in negative feedback
can be said as ct cmfb
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Re: Query on folded cascode ota with switched capacitor cmfb
Reply #5 - Sep 12th, 2013, 7:34am
 
Hi Radex,

OK ... sounds like your SC-CMFB is broken or something. Did you run a transient sim to see if your OTA is working as it should ?
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