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VCO + Divide-by-2 pnoise (phase noise) setup
Sep 06th, 2005, 4:22pm
 
Dear all,

Can anyone help me with VCO + divider setup.
VCO is runnig at 2G and I'm interested in phase noise after divide by 2 at 1G.
When I setup the Pnoise Analysis for my standalone VCO, in the setup form, I ignore the item"Input Source",.

But in this case what should i do?

Thanks a lot.
     
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Re: VCO + Divide-by-2 pnoise (phase noise) setup
Reply #1 - Sep 6th, 2005, 10:19pm
 
Specify the output to be the output of the divider and set the fundamental frequency to be 1GHz. Be sure to start the oscillator during the tstab interval.

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Reply #2 - Sep 6th, 2005, 10:48pm
 
Thanks Ken,
What about the input noise source? should it be set to none
in pss analysis should it be in oscillator mode with oscillation node as vco outputs?

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Reply #3 - Sep 6th, 2005, 11:07pm
 
The PSS should be in oscillator mode, and you should specify the output to be the output of the divider (as Ken said). If you specify it at the VCO output, you'll only be analyzing half the periodic behaviour, so it (most likely) won't converge, and (if it did converge) you'd get the wrong answer...

The input source for pnoise is only relevant if you want to calculate input referred noise or noise figure/factor - which I expect you don't. It doesn't affect the calculation of output noise or phase noise.

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Reply #4 - Sep 7th, 2005, 12:44am
 
Thanks Andrew,
It is quite helpful.

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