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How to do SP simulation with non-resistive termina
Apr 16th, 2007, 6:31pm
 
Now my circuit has a capacitive load and I want to do SP simulation. But the port can only have a
real impedance. What should I do?
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Re: How to do SP simulation with non-resistive ter
Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2007, 10:12pm
 
Use a more recent version of port. This has other parameters:

Port parameters:
55      r=50 Ohm          Reference resistance.
56      x=0 Ohm           Reference reactance, ignored for time domain analyses.
57      lchock=0.1 H      Chock inductor for network analyser.
58      cblock=0.0001 F   Blocking capacitance for network analyser.

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Reply #2 - Apr 16th, 2007, 10:50pm
 
Andrew,
    What is a chock inductor? And what are lchock and cblock used for? They have non-zero defaults, does that imply that they are always present?

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Reply #3 - Apr 16th, 2007, 10:53pm
 
Ken,

Good question. I'd not noticed them until I just looked at the help just now. I'll see what I can find and report back.

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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2007, 2:54am
 
cadence must mean choke inductor (perhaps they like chock because it rhymes with block ???)

i must admit i have never noticed an impact of a fixed 0.1H or 1mF in sp sweeps i've ever done in the past or recently....

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Re: How to do SP simulation with non-resistive ter
Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2007, 9:31am
 
I looked a bit further up the help for port:

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You can define 2 or 3 terminal port. if you define 2-terminal port it operates like was described above. In case of 3-terminal port it also includes internal ideal chock inductor and ideal blocking capacitor. They are work like switches to terminate or connect appropriate branch dependent on type of analysis


You're right about the fact that it should be "choke" inductor - there is a PCR (923338) for this typo to be corrected (and for the grammar errors to be corrected too!). They are only included if you use a 3 terminal port. This was added for compatibility with other SPICE simulators (which have a .net or vport component, or something like that...)

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