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Croaker
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Reference Current Generation
Aug 16th, 2007, 7:43am
 
Hi, is there any way to generate a reference current such that the absolute value does not change as components change?  Let's say you used a bandgap voltage and a resistor to generate a current...if the resistor value values, so does the current.  The goal is to keep the absolute value of the current constant.

Thanks in advance for your brilliant ideas!  :)
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Reply #1 - Aug 16th, 2007, 8:33am
 
You can design a bandgap reference with IPTAT and insensitive to resistor variation. Try searching IEEE xplore for IPTAT reference...

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Reply #2 - Aug 18th, 2007, 6:01am
 
Unfortunately not. Here are a few options to explore:

Resistor trimming.
Use an off chip resistor.
Switched capacitor resistor (depends on frequency and capacitance).

-Monte
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Reply #3 - Aug 18th, 2007, 3:47pm
 
Croaker,

  One other thought, can you design around the problem at
a higher level of the system? For example, in an integrated  
switched-current DAC, you can use the resistor-type for the
reference current generator and the DAC load resistors. Then
the error is reduced to the mismatch between the resistors.
Since the resistors values will track across process, voltage,
and temperature, the overall system looks like it has absolute
accuracy without actually using precision components.

                                                    Best Regards,

                                                      Sheldon
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Reply #4 - Aug 18th, 2007, 7:06pm
 
So sorry about that.

I went back and read the papers i had read before on CMOS BG references and seems i had understood the papers wrongly. Funny though, my BG reference seemed to be iptat...


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Reply #5 - Aug 19th, 2007, 6:57am
 
For resistor trimming, now we are using a very time cosuming solution, that use test machine and I2C interface to adjust.
Is there any better choice?

MonteCarlo wrote on Aug 18th, 2007, 6:01am:
Unfortunately not. Here are a few options to explore:

Resistor trimming.
Use an off chip resistor.
Switched capacitor resistor (depends on frequency and capacitance).

-Monte

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Re: Reference Current Generation
Reply #6 - Aug 20th, 2007, 2:07pm
 
Thanks for all the replies!   Smiley
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