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julian2007
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Constant Gm biasing stability issues
Jun 16th, 2008, 8:49pm
 
Hi, there:
    I am designing a constant gm biasing block. stable issue is analyzed using Spectre's STB analysis and a voltage source is emploied as the probe component. Below are the schematic and simulation result.
   Now here are my questions
   1.  Why the phase of the loop gain at low frequencies is 180 deg instead of -180 deg? Is this because T(return ratio) = -Vo/Vx?
   2.  If I want to improve the stability, what should I do? adding Miller cap? then which branch should I choose to hook up the comcap?
   3.  Any analytical papers with regard to the stability issue of this circuit?

Thanks In Advance
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Re: Constant Gm biasing stability issues
Reply #1 - Jun 17th, 2008, 3:02am
 
Hi Julian2007,

1. I think 180 deg and -180 deg are equal. It is easy to use 180 deg for plot the Bode plot.
2. The opamp is not necessary for a constant-Gm current source. If the opamp is removed, the resistor is an inherited source degenration, which will ensure the stability.


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Yawei
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Re: Constant Gm biasing stability issues
Reply #2 - Jun 17th, 2008, 7:28pm
 
Hi Julian,

Please be aware of the fact that you have two loops in this circuit. One of those is a positive feedback loop, while the other one is a negative feedback one. In order to have a stable system the negative feedback loop has to have a larger gain than the positive one. It is ok to analyze the stability of both loops at the same time by "breaking" the loop where you are placing the probe, since both loops are sharing such node.
The opamp BW should be larger than the pole of the bandgap circuit "without" the opamp in order to make it stable. So one option is to increase as much as possible the GBW of your opamp (not an easy task).

Hope this helps
Tosei
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Re: Constant Gm biasing stability issues
Reply #3 - Jun 29th, 2008, 11:06pm
 
I think this paper maybe help.
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