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no metastability problem in comparator at lower frequencies
Nov 01st, 2011, 9:49am
 
Hi,
  when iam using this dynamic comparator with equal inputs  iam not getting metastability state for the given circuit for different values of (W/L) ,,,,but metastability occuring only when the enable frequency is higher i.e is in Ghz range.
   Why i didnt get the metastability problem for low frequencies
Can anybody suggest me the solution ?


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Re: no metastability problem in comparator at lower frequencies
Reply #1 - Nov 1st, 2011, 12:35pm
 
Hi,
Did you use same rise/fall times for the signals? Did you consider the delay of the comparator? Simulator (accuracy) settings may depend on things like sim end time...
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Re: no metastability problem in comparator at lower frequencies
Reply #2 - Nov 1st, 2011, 6:25pm
 
How are you simulating metastability?  
Are you just looking at gross failures?   Noise analysis?
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Re: no metastability problem in comparator at lower frequencies
Reply #3 - Nov 5th, 2011, 1:04pm
 
metastability is usually an issue with small inputs where the circuit does not have enough gain to make the device take one state or the other.

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Re: no metastability problem in comparator at lower frequencies
Reply #4 - Dec 10th, 2011, 3:47am
 
First, you should understand for yourself what metastability is. I'd define it as an event when a comparator cannot resolve the input within particular amount of time .
Secondly, metastability is a probability-thing, i.e it occurs always! At high frequency, comparator has less time to resolve input and so you see a lot of metastable events. However, it is very difficult to see metastability issue at low frequency because probability is much-much lower.  
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Re: no metastability problem in comparator at lower frequencies
Reply #5 - Dec 10th, 2011, 10:11am
 
Vladislav D wrote on Dec 10th, 2011, 3:47am:
First, you should understand for yourself what metastability is. I'd define it as an event when a comparator cannot resolve the input within particular amount of time .
Secondly, metastability is a probability-thing, i.e it occurs always! At high frequency, comparator has less time to resolve input and so you see a lot of metastable events. However, it is very difficult to see metastability issue at low frequency because probability is much-much lower.  

Agreed - and add to that - higher frequency = less gain.

one perspective is time domain and the other is frequency. Both are valid.
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