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Understanding DAC SFDR
Nov 07th, 2011, 7:14pm
 
Hello,
I have a basic question about DAC SFDR.

I modeled an ideal 16bit dac in verilog-a, I apply an ideal sine wave of 400MHz to an ideal 16bit adc, the adc drives the dac. When I use a fourier transform of the output of the dac, the clock rate is 8GHz, I get -92dB THD. However, if I drop the clock rate to 1.6GHz the THD drops to -6.9dB. I am plotting the 1st 16 harmonics.

When I look at ADI, Maxim, NXP etc their input data rate is 1/4 of the clock rate but their dac( which are not ideal) are showing much better results

any help will be greatly appreciated
thanks analog2001
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Reply #1 - Nov 8th, 2011, 4:13am
 
SFDR and THD are two different things.
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Reply #2 - Nov 8th, 2011, 7:31am
 
hello analog2001,
What's your Question, is it about SFDR or THD? SFDR is about largest harmonic and THD is about all harmonics

Any how it's very common to observe SFDR drop at higher sampling rate due to several frequency dependent degradation like o/p impedance of the tail current source, delay variation to current steering switch. In general people are intersted SFRD at frequencies near to nyquist rate.

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Reply #3 - Nov 10th, 2011, 5:07am
 
Analog2001,

  First, what you are saying really does not make sense. Since you are
using an ideal ADC, DAC the SNDR will be ~96dB or there is a problem
with your models. In addition, an ideal ADC, DAC will not have distortion
so why are you looking for it? An ideal ADC, DAC will only have quantization
noise. So my suspicion is that there is a testbench or a measurement
issue. More details about the testbench and measurement would help
to clarify the source of the issue.

                                                                              Sheldon
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Reply #4 - Feb 26th, 2012, 12:11pm
 
Hi Analog2001,
The SFDR is the difference in dB between the fundamental and the higher harmonic. Thus, the SFDR is generaly higher than the THD.
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Reply #5 - Jul 18th, 2012, 10:50pm
 
Clear answer has been given by raja. Attaching this just in case who check this post later and want to learn more. A very good document on basic definition of ADC from NS.

http://robosavvy.com/Builders/limor.bak/ABCs_of_ADCs.pdf

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