Hi Sheldon, thanks for your response, but let me clarify some things...
sheldon wrote on Nov 26th, 2011, 5:30pm:Stephan,
The issue is not the phase noise calculation. The issue is how do you
calculate the steady-state of a system that includes both driven, Mixer,
and autonomous, VCO, components. The solution has been available
for several years, semi-autonomous HB analysis. Spectre/APS RF's
semi-autonomous HB analysis will calculate the steady-state of a
mixed-systems, that is, circuits containing both autonomous and
driven components...
Hope this helps,
Sheldon
The problem is NOT to run an HB analysis on vco+mixer, the result from this is
fine . The problem is the HB-noise analysis on top of this! You can easily simulate the NF increase of the whole receiver using HB-noise, but it works only correct in simulators like spectrerf for
fix-LO (with same phase-noise of course,
driven mode), i.e. having no VCO circuit. Transient noise gives me consistent output noise in
both cases. So there is no testbench problem.
I have never seen a science paper really showcasing reciprocal mixing simulation in HB, with true cross-check to tran-noise or well-known reciprocal mixing formulas. Do you know any?
Bye Stephan