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Low temperature simulation of a simple NMOS
Oct 03rd, 2005, 4:59pm
 
HI guys,

I was simulating a very basic NMOS transistor using spectre analog environment in order to obtain the Ids/Vgs plot. I used parametric analysis on Vds and dc analysis on Vgs to obtain the plot at 300K. Everything seems fine.

However, when i tried to switch the temperature to 4K ( as i need those simulations to run at 4K ), there were errors. The error messages were:

Error found by spectre during initial setup.
     M0.my_nch: The junction reverse saturation current is too small = 4.15 C.

Warning from spectre during initial setup.
     M0: 'Dvt0' = -15.0839mV is negative.

What do the messages mean?

Please help, urgent.

Kindest regards,

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Re: Low temperature simulation of a simple NMOS
Reply #1 - Oct 3rd, 2005, 9:05pm
 
Sphere,

It is obvious that the temperature is out of range. Why do you need run simulations at 4K? It is impossible to run a circuit near absolute zero degree.


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Re: Low temperature simulation of a simple NMOS
Reply #2 - Oct 4th, 2005, 4:33pm
 
Thanks Yawei for your prompt reply!

It is going to be used to amplify signals from single electron transistors operating at 100mK to 4K. However, the major concern here is the thermal noise and flicker noise. The Id characteristic curve is similar at 4K and at 300K( not same, but similar i think ) and thus can be used.

Is there a way I can set the spectre analog environment to simulate those transistors at 300K but make it think that it has a noise temperature of 4K or less? I'm a real noob in Cadence spectre but i'm willing to learn hard!  ;D Kind people out there please point me to the rite direction!

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Re: Low temperature simulation of a simple NMOS
Reply #3 - Oct 4th, 2005, 6:52pm
 
The issue is not with Spectre per se, but rather with the model. The model is not designed to operate at those temperatures. You could try different models, or you could write a simple model in Verilog-A.

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Re: Low temperature simulation of a simple NMOS
Reply #4 - Oct 4th, 2005, 7:40pm
 
Thx Ken Grin WIll try it out !
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