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PXF analysis on Oscillators
Oct 17th, 2005, 12:02pm
 
Hello ppl.,
               I am running PXF analysis on oscillators. In order to verify my understanding of the PXF analysis, I am running a simple experiment.  I injected  resistor noise through a controlled source to  specific nodes of the oscillator. I manually calculated the resistor noise contribution from the output of the PXF analysis.
Manual calculation:

rn - resistor noise
sn - transfer function from sideband n (output of PXF analysis)

total resistor noise contribution = rn*(s0^2+s1^2+..)

I tried verifying the same by the noise contribution summary that spectre spits out. They don't seem to match. Am I doing something wrong here?  Let me get your inputs/suggestions.

Thanks,
Ganesh.


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Re: PXF analysis on Oscillators
Reply #1 - Oct 17th, 2005, 2:07pm
 
Did you include the negative sidebands?

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Reply #2 - Oct 18th, 2005, 6:12pm
 
Hi Ken,
          Thanks for your reply. There is some subtlety in PXF which I think I understood better. In the VCO actually I was looking at k=-1,0, 1 sidebands for the PNOISE analysis. While the corresponding sidebands in the PXF analysis was k=0,-1,-2. This is because my fout in the pxf analysis was (Fundpss + offset frequency). Correspondingly the fin is offset by 1 harmonic.

Does this sound alright?

-Ganesh.
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Reply #3 - Oct 18th, 2005, 10:00pm
 
Given the same options (sweeptype=relative or absolute) and the same output frequency range, PXF and PNoise will treat sidebands identically.

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Reply #4 - Oct 19th, 2005, 10:09am
 
Got it! Thanks a lot, Ken.

-Ganesh.
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