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Berti

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"low-interference" DCDC-converter
Apr 10^th, 2008, 5:29am

Hi all,

I am working on a DCDC-converter for a SOC. It is important that the converter generates
low interference (e.g. switching noise). But most of the publications about DCDC-converter focus on
efficiency (which is secondary in my case, but a LDO is still not good enough).
Can somebody give me suggestions (literature) about "low-interference" DCDC-converters (e.g. using dithering etc.)?

Thanks

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Re: "low-interference" DCDC-converter
Reply #1 - Apr 11^th, 2008, 4:43pm

Berti,

Some designers, at least at the university level, are starting to use Sigma-Delta
controllers for DC-to-DC Converters to reduce noise and improve performance. Still
seems a little experimental but it is an interesting approach.

http://users.ece.gatech.edu/rincon-mora/publicat/journals/iecon05_tran_bypss_bst...

Best Regards,

Sheldon

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loose-electron Senior Fellow Offline Best Design Tool = Capable Designers Posts: 1638 San Diego California	Re: "low-interference" DCDC-converter Reply #2 - Apr 15^th, 2008, 12:39pm You might want to post some more specifics about what you want to do. Any switching converter is going to be noisier than a linear regulaotr (classic, LDO or whatever) but need to know more about your system architecture requirements.
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Berti

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Re: "low-interference" DCDC-converter
Reply #3 - Apr 15^th, 2008, 10:44pm

Thank you Sheldon for the reference. I found some interesting literature.

Loose-electron,

The dcdc-converter is for a wireless transceiver. As the circuits operate from a lower supply than the battery voltage, a dcdc-conveter is mandatory for low power consumption (and
the efficiency of a LDO is unfortunatly not acceptable).
First measurements have already been quite good. But the trasmitter is very sensitive and the interference from the dcdc-converter should be reduced further by 20dB.
I think it is difficult to give absolute specs for isolation since the some of the coupling paths have been identified, but they are difficult to model.

So I was wondering what other techniques I can incoorporate into the existing dcdc-converter (PWM buck converter) to further reduce the switching noise.

Cheers

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sheldon

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Re: "low-interference" DCDC-converter
Reply #4 - Apr 16^th, 2008, 6:26am

Berti,

This is probably not the direction you are looking for and is more of a philosophical
question. However, it if the design is so sensitive to noise, does integration make
sense? I don't understand the economics driving your project, but would System
in Package, SiP, be a better approach than integration for this level of performance?
SiP would give you an opportunity to use passives to reduce noise, etc. that is
difficult to do in integrated designs.

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Sheldon

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Berti Community Fellow Offline Posts: 356	Re: "low-interference" DCDC-converter Reply #5 - Apr 16^th, 2008, 10:30pm Sheldon, SiP and solutions with external power switches have also been considered. But BOM and customer demands don't allow that. Regards
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Re: "low-interference" DCDC-converter
Reply #6 - Apr 25^th, 2008, 6:38pm

Berti,

My office is moving and while cleaning up my desk found another paper
that may be useful.

"All-Digital DPWM/DPFM Controller for Low-Power DC-DC Converters"
by Wang, Rahman, Lukic, Prodic

It describes an all-digital dc-to-dc converter. Since the dc-to-dc converter
operates at >6MHz. Operating at that frequency should keep the ripple at
the output down and out of the audio band. There is also a pretty extensive
bibliography you can use to study the prior art.

Best Regards,

Sheldon

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