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Time-domain jitter with flicker noise in veriloga
Apr 24th, 2008, 8:24am
 
Hi,

in many advanced behavioral models jitter is included with Gaussian distributed random numbers, but that includes usually no flicker (1/f) noise. Generally, flicker noise increases long-term jitter more, so adding additional randomness, not every period, but in longer time steps could be a way of implementing it. Has anybody a jitter model with flicker noise or detailed references with models on this topic?

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Re: Time-domain jitter with flicker noise in veriloga
Reply #1 - Oct 6th, 2008, 10:51am
 
Stephan,

Did you ever try out your idea for modeling 1/f noise?  Your approach seems worth a try.  

You could run it for "long enough" time, save and window the output samples, and do some spectral analysis on them in Matlab.  Tweak and repeat till you get the desired 1/f break, then look for a deterministic formula to generalize it.

I'm curious to see how it worked for you.

Thanks,

Bob P.
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Reply #2 - Oct 7th, 2008, 7:13am
 
Hi Bob,

whatr I tried some weeks ago was using a CMOS inverter for jitter creation e.g. in Spectre transient noise analysis, and using AC noise sources for white and 1/f noise. It looks not bad, but is probably not best wrt efficiency.

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