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different NF results from "sp" and "noise" analysi
May 15th, 2008, 1:08am
 
different NF results obtained from "sp" and "noise" analysis of Spectre, the circuit is a LNA, the difference is about 0.2dB.

setup as follows:

sp: do noise= yes, mode= single ended
noise: output noise = voltage
         input noise = port

which one is more accurate? why the results are different?


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Re: different NF results from "sp" and "noise" ana
Reply #1 - May 15th, 2008, 2:10am
 
Hi,

Try to select in noise output noise:probe. If you don't select this option spectre takes into account the noise from the load and the results from sp and noise differs.
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Re: different NF results from "sp" and "noise" ana
Reply #2 - May 15th, 2008, 2:11am
 
rf_man wrote on May 15th, 2008, 1:08am:
different NF results obtained from "sp" and "noise" analysis of Spectre, the circuit is a LNA, the difference is about 0.2dB.
setup as follows:
sp: do noise= yes, mode= single ended
noise: output noise = voltage
         input noise = port
which one is more accurate? why the results are different?

In your setup, result of "sp" is correct as NF.

Why don't you specify "port" as "output noise" in "noise" analysis setup ?
Or if you set output port temperature as 0 Kelvin, you can get same NF from "noise-ana" as "sp-ana" even though you specify "voltage" as "output noise" in "noise" analysis setup.
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