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Visjnoe
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Jitter and load capacitance
Jul 10th, 2008, 2:42am
 
Dear all,

I noticed a strange phenomenon during jitter simulation of driven circuits (in casu: logic gates). The simulator used was HSPICE RF.
The logic gates were driven by a 50% duty cycle square wave. The number of sidebands was set to 250 and the jitter integration bandwidth  to 5GHz.

During a first set of simulations, I used a load capacitance of 0.1pF. I thought this was a conservative setting which would result in worst-case jitter results.

However, now I noticed that when I decrease the load capacitance to e.g. 0.01pF the reported jitter increases.

To me this is counterintuitive, since from handcalculations I would expect the jitter to decrease with decreasing load capacitance for synchronous (added) jitter by logic gates (e.g. INV, AND...).

Has anyone observed this too? Any (possible) physical explanation?

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Peter
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Re: Jitter and load capacitance
Reply #1 - Jul 13th, 2008, 7:49pm
 
Hi,
I have found the same problem in eldoRF, but in spectreRF everthing seems reasonable. You could try the simulation in spectreRF.

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Re: Jitter and load capacitance
Reply #2 - Aug 2nd, 2008, 11:07am
 
Visjnoe wrote on Jul 10th, 2008, 2:42am:
To me this is counterintuitive, since from handcalculations I would expect the jitter to decrease with decreasing load capacitance for synchronous (added) jitter by logic gates (e.g. INV, AND...).


Could you please point out a reference or link where I might be able to gain more mathematical insight into the jitter-load capacitance relationship.

Thanks
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Reply #3 - Aug 25th, 2008, 10:53am
 
Dear Trond,

please have a look at the paper by Abidi on jitter in ring oscillators. It contains several insightful derivations, including the jitter-load capacitance relationship. You can also derive the relationship yourself by reading the papers on jitter from this website.

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Peter
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