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tony_taoyh
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Another difficult fundamental question: about delta sigma modulator
Sep 23rd, 2009, 3:45am
 
Hi, All,

I have another difficult fundamental question for the first order delta sigma modulator.


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x -----(+) ----- {z^-1/(1-z^-1)} ------(+) ------> [8-bit ADC] ------> y
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The feedback is a negative one, with 8-bit ideal DAC.

The ADC is also a ideal one.

ff is white noise. x is a DC input.

According to the linear model, the TF is as:
y = x*z^-1 + (ff+qq) * (1-z^-1), where qq is the quantization noise.

According to this model, the ff will also be first-order shaped. Right?

However, from the Matlab behavioral model, ff is NOT shaped.

Is there anybody who can explain this well?

Thanks a lot.



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Re: Another difficult fundamental question: about delta sigma modulator
Reply #1 - Sep 23rd, 2009, 6:12pm
 
Some additional information.

In the matlab program, the integrator output will be:

v1(n) = v1(n-1) + 1*(x(n-1) - y(n-1)) + ff(n-1)

It is equivalent to:

v1(n) = v1(n-1) + 1*({x(n-1) + ff(n-1) } - y(n-1))

Assuming the gain of the integrator is 1.

Then, the x + ff can be considered as the input of the modulator.

Both x and ff will NOT be shaped inside the behavioral simulation.

There shoud be some breaking point somewhere, to explain the
contradition between behavioral simulation and linear model.


Thanks.


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Re: Another difficult fundamental question: about delta sigma modulator
Reply #2 - Sep 23rd, 2009, 11:01pm
 
I think your conclusion is wrong. The output y will contain ff and x. You basically consider the modulator open-loop.

When you close the loop you get y(n) = x(n-1) + (ff(n) - ff(n-1)).

How do you simulate this modulator?

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