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Open loop VCO modulation
May 04th, 2010, 7:24am
 
Hi all,


I am curious what the limitations on open loop VCO modulation are. My thinking is that the biggest issue will be process variation which will create some uncertainty in the frequency deviation.

Is there a standard way to figure out for example what is the maximum data rate that such modulation can take based on expected capacitance variation etc? Will some kind of corner simulations be sufficient? I don't have access to monte carlo simulations.


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Re: Open loop VCO modulation
Reply #1 - May 5th, 2010, 1:04pm
 
What do you mean by open loop vco modulation.

as the vctl drifts, the VCO frequency changes.

Or are you talking about how much VCO frequency changes with Process.
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Reply #2 - May 5th, 2010, 6:15pm
 
Hi,

I am talking about a transmitter design where the modulation is done by directly applying the modulating signal to the VCO. So in an open loop scheme, you would have two control voltages for the VCO. One for the normal locking of the PLL, and one controlling a different set of varactors which is driven by the modulating signal. That way you can get FSK.
So yeah, I'm curious about the effect of process variation on such a scheme, and what kind of limits could be achieved.


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Re: Open loop VCO modulation
Reply #3 - Jun 8th, 2010, 12:37am
 
Hi aaron_do,
 
Nice & Simple Idea, BUT

IF YOU DO NOT USE A PLL, INSTEAD JUST AN OSCILLATOR

1.  VCO frequency drifts heavily with changes in Process & Temperature.
   a.>  For Process, you would need sm kind of trimming.
   b.>  For controlling Temperature Drift, you would need some Bias cktry designed so as to compensate temp effects.

2.  Even after doing the above mentioned stuff, You can never be phase aligned in Open-Loop Process. So only FSK & no kind of PSK/OFDM/phase sensitive modulations can be applied.

3.  Even if you compensate point no. 1, there will still remain certain drifts in freq with PVT which you need to put a spec on i.e. you need to calculate the limit of unwanted freq variations that your FSK can tolerate.

IF YOU USE GENERATE operating pt from PLL & PUMP SIGNAL INTO VCO VARACTORS;

1. When you will change your signal bits, VCO freq will vary immediately. This kind of variation will compete against VCO's single Period Jitter. You gotta take care of that.

2. PLL will try to negate the effect of Signal that you apply to the varactor. So if your signal is DC (i.e. it sits at a particular value &  doesnt change for a long time), then even though you would expect your VCO Freq. output to be Fop_point + ( some gain value * your signal i/p ) , BUT over a long time, PLL will stabilize the vco freq to PLL's op. freq. So you cant see that output.

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Reply #4 - Jun 8th, 2010, 7:27am
 
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IF YOU USE GENERATE operating pt from PLL & PUMP SIGNAL INTO VCO VARACTORS


yeah that's basically what I intend. It's a common technique actually, but I haven't seen much info on the limitations. Based on what you're saying, it seems there is a minimum limit to data rate, and also the data must have an approximately equal number of zeros and ones in order to ensure the PLL does not lock onto the wrong frequency.

I'm more looking for references at this point on how such a design can be done.


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Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2010, 10:36pm
 
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Based on what you're saying, it seems there is a minimum limit to data rate, and also the data must have an approximately equal number of zeros and ones in order to ensure the PLL does not lock onto the wrong frequency.
Yeah, Some for of 0/1 Padding OR Frequency Hopping OR Spread Spectrum Teechniques would be required; I Suppose.

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http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CCUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2F...

http://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2F...

& many more on ieeexplore.

i am currently not working on this. BUT do suggest me if you find any good reading material on this.

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Reply #6 - Jun 9th, 2010, 9:09pm
 
Sure thing. Thanks

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Reply #7 - Jun 10th, 2010, 10:25pm
 
for a VCO the time varying signal on the varactor will have the following equation
Vout(t)=A*sin(wt+kv*integ(x(t)))

which coincidentally is the same for FM where kv is replaced by "m" for modulation index.

With that in mind wide band fm power spectral density inherently follows a bessel functions of the first kind which are probably solved somewhere on the internet. Where amplitude of x(t) and KV determine the bandwidth and spectral content.  I believe this spectral leakage in the transmitter will ultimately be the limiting factor in ACPR and thus be the limitation of the circuit.

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