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Nico67
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Re: Simulate Phase noise DLL
Reply #30 - Sep 03rd, 2004, 6:21am
 
I simulate all my DLL

When I do the result PSS/ tdnoise /integ output noise/magnitude/Start 0 Stop f0/2 I obtain a point at 1.29m but not units.And I have dv/dt=10G that gives J=0.2ps and I think that J must be more important.

In  the reply 20, you indicates to choose total noise maybe it is this becausee i don't have option total noise

or maybe when i indicates the specific point in the pnoise

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Re: Simulate Phase noise DLL
Reply #31 - Sep 3rd, 2004, 6:46am
 
The unit is not shown but it is volts. You might want to double-check if you have specified all parameters of your simulation correctly (e.g. the timepoints for which you perform the tdnoise analysis). The Total Noise option might not exist in older versions (I am using 5.0.33), you will probably get the total noise by default in your version.

The value you get is the standard deviation of the Gaussian distribution. The peak value will be higher, depending on the probability with which it occurs. Like I said, in many cases there are other effects that generate larger amounts of jitter than the intrinsic device noise.
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Re: Simulate Phase noise DLL
Reply #32 - Sep 3rd, 2004, 6:58am
 
Ok , Frank if you have time can you see this ( it is in french)
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http://pastel.paristech.org/archive/00000619/01/Manuscript.pdf

in page 89 , he have a spectral density Sn = -135 dBc si he have 6,4ps

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Re: Simulate Phase noise DLL
Reply #33 - Sep 3rd, 2004, 8:22am
 
The formula given there applies to a sine wave with stationary noise but not for the general case of an arbitrary periodic signal with cyclostationary noise.
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