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Difference between two inverters
Jun 16th, 2009, 1:40am
 
Hi all,

what are the advantages and disadvantages between these two inverters?

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Reply #1 - Jun 16th, 2009, 5:15am
 
hi,
  both are same ,you can't keep nmos drain potential less than source potenial

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Reply #2 - Jun 16th, 2009, 10:19am
 
Hi,

The first one is the source follower. it is better to use to drive resistor and it cannot give you rail to rail output. The second one is usually the inverter driving capacitor and easily get a rail to rail output. Also, the second one, is saving power.
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Reply #3 - Jun 16th, 2009, 10:22am
 
hi,
   have you locked at both schematics, as soon you connect nmos on the bottom side immediately low potential point will be the source and remaining will be the drain....so how second ckt is possible?

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Reply #4 - Jun 16th, 2009, 6:31pm
 
uu@uk wrote on Jun 16th, 2009, 10:19am:
Hi,

The first one is the source follower. it is better to use to drive resistor and it cannot give you rail to rail output. The second one is usually the inverter driving capacitor and easily get a rail to rail output. Also, the second one, is saving power.



In addition the second one has a large gain, therefore it reduces the delay between input an output signal provided both drive the same load.

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Re: Difference between two inverters
Reply #5 - Jun 16th, 2009, 11:35pm
 
It can not be a source follower, what rajasekhar wrote is correct. It is just a matter of flipping the symbol in the schematic but remains the PMOS connected to the highest voltage in the circuit and the NMOS to the lowest voltage. Assuming that the transistors are layouted symetrical so that the source and drain area of each transistor are equal.

In order to have a source follower then you have to connect the NMOS to the VDD and the PMOS to the VSS.

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Reply #6 - Jun 17th, 2009, 1:08am
 
hi aamar,
              ya thats what even i am arguing.. And for the second argument it wont properly work as  Source follower also, it shows hysteresis.

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Reply #7 - Jun 17th, 2009, 2:20am
 
Yes rajasekhar, you are right, I meant just the principle but not that it is the optimum one.
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