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average noise power
Dec 23rd, 2011, 10:38am
 
i have a transfer function which is multiplied with noise voltage density transfer function (flicker+white noise curve) and i get resulting data from that.

So in order to calculate avergae noise power, do i need to take Root mean square of all the values or root sum square of all the values?

Please help me on this
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Reply #1 - Dec 23rd, 2011, 11:34am
 
hello,
finally you have to find rms value of the output. but already you have output psd, so just find sum and take square root.

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Reply #2 - Dec 23rd, 2011, 12:48pm
 
raja.cedt wrote on Dec 23rd, 2011, 11:34am:
hello,
finally you have to find rms value of the output. but already you have output psd, so just find sum and take square root.

thanks,
raj.


thanks

for noise voltage density i use
eVN2 = eFN2/freq + eWN2;
eVN  = sqrt(eVN2)

suppose my transfer function
   save_tf_values(j) = variable1;
   save_output_noise(j) = variable1 * eVN;

these eVN values i multiply with my transfer function for each frequency and get data.. eVN is not squared.. so i think i need i need to take rms as shown below?
rms = sqrt(mean(save_output_noise.^2))

please suggest whether this correct?
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Reply #3 - Dec 23rd, 2011, 2:14pm
 
yes, sounds correct. But why u r doing this.
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Reply #4 - Dec 26th, 2011, 1:04pm
 
i have two different transfer functions and i want to see which one has more noise power..

thanx for ur suggestions
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Reply #5 - Dec 26th, 2011, 5:23pm
 
Hi,

not sure if I'm missing something here, but why did you divide EFN2 by freq?

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Reply #6 - Dec 27th, 2011, 2:33am
 
aaron_do wrote on Dec 26th, 2011, 5:23pm:
Hi,

not sure if I'm missing something here, but why did you divide EFN2 by freq?

thanks,
Aaron


efn is flicker noise voltage at 1Hz and the flicker noise gives 1/freq behaviour ... i just took general formula to calculate total noise due to flicker and white noise
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Reply #7 - Dec 30th, 2011, 4:10am
 
If intereseted in average noise power, you need to integrate the resulting noise psd at the output.

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