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raja.cedt
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Opamp polaritiy
Mar 03rd, 2012, 12:32pm
 
hello all,
i am reading a patent on charge pump for low spur PLL, find the attached fig.  but the basic problem is during M1,M2 turn on opamp has -ve feedback but how about feedback polarity when M5,M6 on.

Here i assume tail current source is realized by nmos whose gate is driven by opamp.

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Reply #1 - Mar 3rd, 2012, 1:09pm
 
There are two feedback loops here: negative and positive. To make the circuit stable, loop gain of the positive loop should be smaller. This is achieved by the divider, formed by C1 and R1.

Looks like, at high frequency, the loopgain of the negative loop increases...
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Reply #2 - Mar 4th, 2012, 12:56am
 
hello,
think about dc always, then ac.

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Reply #3 - Mar 4th, 2012, 5:22pm
 
The op-amp does not see the high frequency switching.

Interesting configuration - You are changing
the charge pump current
to maintain common mode voltage.

Most of the time I have seen the opamp
maintain the voltage of the other side of the H-Bridge

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Reply #4 - Mar 17th, 2012, 7:48am
 
Hi raj.

I don't know what's the purpose of that charge pump scheme. But I think One node, like Vx, probably is set to a common mode voltage. So you remove one loop.


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Reply #5 - Mar 20th, 2012, 12:25am
 
hi raja,

if M1 & M2 are turned on op-amp is in negative feedback configuration, if otherwise, the op-amp is in positive feedback configuration...

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Reply #6 - Mar 20th, 2012, 2:04am
 
hello anil,
whats the difference between my first post and your post?
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