The Designer's Guide Community
Forum
Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register. Please follow the Forum guidelines.
Apr 25th, 2024, 9:14pm
Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
Corner Simulations without ADE-XL (Read 11009 times)
Berti
Community Fellow
*****
Offline



Posts: 356

Corner Simulations without ADE-XL
May 08th, 2012, 11:57pm
 
Does anybody know whether corner/monte-carlo simulation are possible in Cadence6 without using ADE-XL? (just using ADE-L)

I found ADE-XL being a very slow annoying toy/tool which crashes several time a day! I want to go back to the good old ADE! Cry

Cheers

Berti
Back to top
 
 
View Profile   IP Logged
ACWWong
Community Fellow
*****
Offline



Posts: 539
Oxford, UK
Re: Corner Simulations without ADE-XL
Reply #1 - May 10th, 2012, 8:46pm
 
hi Berti,
I share your pain. I found ADE-XL a real pain, but finally began to understand how to configure it (and that is by no means obvious !!!) and where it puts the data etc. So I would say persevere, you'll get used it !
If the crashing is a problem, it might be a version issue, so the Cadence standard response of upgrading to latest IC ver and MMsim should help... but having said that it still seems to be sloooow !

Problem is even if you run MonteCarlo from say Ocean, I believe you'll still check-out the ADE-XL license, so may as well use the GUI.

Cheers

Alan
Back to top
 
 
View Profile   IP Logged
Berti
Community Fellow
*****
Offline



Posts: 356

Re: Corner Simulations without ADE-XL
Reply #2 - May 25th, 2012, 12:02am
 
Hi Alan,

Thanks for mental support ... good to know that I am not alone Wink

Our EDA-Team is in contact with Cadence, but as you mentioned: The standard-answer is waiting for the next version ... which usually just brings other problems.

It is really a pity that a good circuit simulator such as spectre is integrated in such a sloppy programmed software.

BR

Berti
Back to top
 
 
View Profile   IP Logged
Berti
Community Fellow
*****
Offline



Posts: 356

Re: Corner Simulations without ADE-XL
Reply #3 - May 25th, 2012, 12:13am
 
BTW, does any body has hints how to speed up ADE-XL?

I tried it by storing the simulation data only on my local disk (not on the server), to reduce the hystory to only 1 single simulation run etc. , but so far I didn't got an improvement.

Cheers
Back to top
 
 
View Profile   IP Logged
pixel
New Member
*
Offline



Posts: 5

Re: Corner Simulations without ADE-XL
Reply #4 - May 25th, 2012, 2:59am
 
ic165 is more stable version than previous.
If you make multiple simulations you can run for example 4 in parallel:
Run->RunOptions>Parallel on, Specify=4
Options > Max Jbs 4

Save only selected voltages also helps.

and of course APS simulator in the ADE-Setup>HighPerformanceSimulators> APS
Back to top
 
 
View Profile   IP Logged
Pages: 1
Send Topic Print
Copyright 2002-2024 Designer’s Guide Consulting, Inc. Designer’s Guide® is a registered trademark of Designer’s Guide Consulting, Inc. All rights reserved. Send comments or questions to editor@designers-guide.org. Consider submitting a paper or model.