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Reply #15 - Aug 17th, 2014, 8:51am
 
tnx a lot sir Aaron

really,you help me a lot.
i haven't team and advance lab in my university . so i have very question
i'm sorry for have this problem. Embarrassed
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Reply #16 - Aug 17th, 2014, 6:10pm
 
Hi,


So you're the first in your university to work on such a project? That sounds tough, especially for RF work since you will probably need to design the inductors in an EM simulator and then import the s-parameter models.

Assuming you're using Assura, you need to run DRC and LVS. Once your circuit has passed LVS, you need to run QRC. After QRC, an "av_extracted" view will then appear in your library. You need to run simulations on this av_extracted view. You can do so in one of two ways. First you could go to your environment settings in ADE and type in av_extracted at the front of the switch view list. Alternatively you could create a "config" view which will allow you to change the view to simulate block-by-block.

Since this is RF, you shouldn't run QRC on the inductors (unless they are part of the PDK). You need to use an EM simulator to find the S-parameters of the inductor. You can then include the s-parameters in the simulation using the nport component from analogLib...

There are a lot of details I haven't included here because it would be too long. Try running QRC and simulate the extracted view first. Feel free to ask further questions later.


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Aaron
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Reply #17 - Aug 17th, 2014, 11:39pm
 
Hi
Yes i'm first person to work at this project.
tnx a lot for you're help.i try to design...
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Reply #18 - Nov 16th, 2014, 5:38pm
 
Hi, AZADBAKHT,

   " R=[√(L/C)]*Q "
   This equation is only approximately correct @SRF(Self-Resonance Frequency), where omega=1/sqrt(LC).  The SRF is definitely not your oscilation frequency.

   You should use R=omega*L*Q to estimate the impedance, where the omega is the oscilation frequency you want.

   The different R values roots in the Series-Parallel Transform.

 

AZADBAKHT wrote on Aug 15th, 2014, 6:36am:
Hi aaron_do

yes,i know this resistance it's parasitic model for tank.
but,in you're opinion i can build an tank with 750 ohm resistance(parasitic model)?
at RLC parallel tank:

R=[√(L/C)]*Q      >>>>                (L=1nH , C=10fF)

the formula illustrate for have R=750 must Q is high!!

you think i can build the this tank??

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Reply #19 - Nov 16th, 2014, 9:22pm
 
Hi totowo,
tnx a lot for your explain.
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